Time to put your money where your mouth is - Fund raiser for Terrie-Anne

[darrinh]

Okay. But there are dangers in sticking by people just because they have some views in common.

This isn't about sticking by someone because they have views in common, its about standing up for your folk. Even the ones who may say allegedly inappropriate things.

We would have SOME views in common with moron Nazis, does that mean we should stick
by them when someone gets fired for being a Nazi?


I am not trying to start an argument here, just trying to draw comparisons to others groups who
have the opinion that any disagreement is "division" - often that means they want the moderate
nationalists to be united with the nutcases.

The left attack anybody who isn't one of them as a Nazi, we cannot afford to judge by their definitions, rather we need to make our own judgements.  There will be no compromise with those who promote extremism in any form.

I'm just worried that if those KKK comments are proven to be true, that its going to backfire in APP's face.


In regard to Muslims supporting each other no matter what....

1. We don't have that luxury. If we are seen to be supporting ANYTHING extremist, then we will
be seen to be extremist, and will lose any legitimacy.

Opposing the prevailing orthodoxy is seen as 'extremist' in some circles. I'm not arguing, as some do, that we should just be extreme because we will be accused of it anyway. What I'm saying is that we should not let others define us, we need to define ourselves.

2. Muslims support the rapists in their community. Do we want to be like that? Do we want support people who are obvious mental cases because they happen to have some nationalistic views? I'm not saying Terri-Anne is one of them, just giving examples.

Sexual assault is a crime, we do not support criminal activity of any sort, however saying inappropriate things is not a crime. If somebody appears confused, perhaps they need guidance rather than being kicked to the gutter.

3. Supporting someone just to annoy the reds at the potential expense of your reputation seems
like short-term satisfaction for long term damage.

This is an observation of mine, not a cause. When I, and others, were outed, there was no support, nobody to turn to. The reds know this and its why the keep repeating the same formula - because it works for them.  Now, things are different and they don't like the shift. Perhaps it will cause them to think twice before trying it on again.

4. Guys like myself and Mutation don't fear red intimidation at work or anywhere. Every Red I have
ever met I have been able to intimidate the sh!t out of without even making a threat, because by
nature they are wimps. And even if I did lose my job, I would apply for Centrelink. My taxes paid
for it, I can claim it.

Thats nice, how many children did you say you had again? How much mortgage did you say you have again? I don't know about you, but I'm fairly sure centerlink won't cover it for me.

I wouldn't expect people I didn't know to send me money.

And thus the problem with our ethnicity today.

[Casapound]

In regard to Muslims supporting each other no matter what....

1. We don't have that luxury. If we are seen to be supporting ANYTHING extremist, then we will
be seen to be extremist, and will lose any legitimacy.

They are able to do this because they have healthy communities. Our communities are wrecked, our people are taught from birth to hate themselves.

If I thought for one second that this lady supported the KKK or even the idea of such an organisation here in Australia I would tell her to go jump in the pond.

2. Muslims support the rapists in their community. Do we want to be like that? Do we want support people who are obvious mental cases because they happen to have some nationalistic views? I'm not saying Terri-Anne is one of them, just giving examples.

We can afford to be controversial, but look at the weapons the reds use, its always the same. If the KKK had not got a mention this story may well have ended up on the editors spike.

We can in my mind afford associations with most bad things, but the buzz terms the reds use to get stories in the paper [anything "nazi" or "KKK"] are not on, and while I wouldnt go within spitting distance of anyone who holds nazi views and I would hope the same is true of those on this forum words can be twisted by reds.

Remember these are the same people who saw nothing wrong with Stalin air brushing his dead enemies out of pictures. They wouldnt be able to lie straight in bed, they have been lying for so long they dont even know what they believe anymore.

And they have friends in the media, some of them, like Asher Moses, now ARE the media. So please dont say anything that could be taken out of context on a public forum.

We know they will lie anyway, our job is to give them less material to lie with.

[VectorBased]

They are able to do this because they have healthy communities. Our communities are wrecked, our people are taught from birth to hate themselves.

They don't have healthy communities, they just stick together regardless of what crime or atrocity members of
their community commit. Thats why they are third world dark-ages scum, and we have standards.
We kicked all the savages out the warm community hall into the blizzard to freeze to death  a long time ago because they couldn't abide by the tribal community law, and caused problems and in-fighting.
Muslims are always stabbing and shooting each other. Its this ability to be cohesive and relatively free from those
willing to break the law that enabled enough cohesion among our people to invent all the amazing things we have.

The Muslim Arab community is nothing but a bunch of in-fighting, mindlessly aggressive inbreds, who are mentally dominated by Islam, and even the ones who aren't know to keep quiet, or face being killed for "blasphemy".

We had a peaceful society before non-European immigration BECAUSE we refused to support, or allow people who
acted like savages to walk freely among us.

However, I agree we can be controversial, it just depends in what manner.

[mutation]

Let no one be misled here ,this is a clear cut case of racial harrasment,if this girl was anything else but a white Aussie,this would not be happening.

Quite clear.

Asher and friends have been quiet lately, but its good to see the type of fascist repression they are capable of. It reminds us of just how much these twisted people hate us and any expression of pride in our own people or advocacy of their interests.

They will not rest until our people are wiped out, much as the nazis would not have rested until they had wiped out the group to which Asher Moses belongs.

He is defiling the memory of those who died in the holocaust whom he claims to mourn. In other words he is a despicable traitorous cowardly dog.

I wonder why he didnt get a job scribbling in the land of his birth across the Tasman?

Also linking to his own story at the end of a new unrelated story? What a hack!

All this aside its a lesson, dont post stuff on the internet that can be taken out of context. Because people like Asher Moses WILL take it out of context. He is a member of the far left and he is now getting articles in the fairfax press.

People like Mutie, take note, from now on NO B.S from any poster making any crude or boorish statements towards other ethnic groups will be allowed. Its not a matter of free speech, its a matter of protecting the people on this forum who are using their real names here from attacks like this from far left toe-rags like Mr. Moses.

Grow up.

Kiss my arse Casa you are as guilty as I am. You just think it is legitimate when you direct it at reds and not when I direct it at muslims!
You grow up you dictatorial little twerp!


Mutation

[mutation]

In regard to Muslims supporting each other no matter what....

1. We don't have that luxury. If we are seen to be supporting ANYTHING extremist, then we will
be seen to be extremist, and will lose any legitimacy.

They are able to do this because they have healthy communities. Our communities are wrecked, our people are taught from birth to hate themselves.

If I thought for one second that this lady supported the KKK or even the idea of such an organisation here in Australia I would tell her to go jump in the pond.

2. Muslims support the rapists in their community. Do we want to be like that? Do we want support people who are obvious mental cases because they happen to have some nationalistic views? I'm not saying Terri-Anne is one of them, just giving examples.

We can afford to be controversial, but look at the weapons the reds use, its always the same. If the KKK had not got a mention this story may well have ended up on the editors spike.

We can in my mind afford associations with most bad things, but the buzz terms the reds use to get stories in the paper [anything "nazi" or "KKK"] are not on, and while I wouldnt go within spitting distance of anyone who holds nazi views and I would hope the same is true of those on this forum words can be twisted by reds.

Remember these are the same people who saw nothing wrong with Stalin air brushing his dead enemies out of pictures. They wouldnt be able to lie straight in bed, they have been lying for so long they dont even know what they believe anymore.

And they have friends in the media, some of them, like Asher Moses, now ARE the media. So please dont say anything that could be taken out of context on a public forum.

We know they will lie anyway, our job is to give them less material to lie with.

I have no more love for the KKK than you do but I support her right to say what she likes about it or any other subject no matter how offensive I might find it . Hell I even support your right to say what you feel, think or are driven to! Just as I support Reds right to say the moronic crap they adhere to so long as they draw breath that is.
There are no limits to free speech it is either FREE or it is not and you of all people on this forum having pointed out many times that the enemy is within our own walls and their greatest weapon against us is the erosion of free speech should support if not the words then the act of speaking her mind. Nobody should be able to be punished, fired, harassed, intimidated  or targeted by any public or private body or business either for their beliefs, words or associations. Frankly despite my constant conflicts with you I am always impressed with your passion, intellect and unwavering determination  on those issues dear to you but am sickened by your willingness to abandon the principals of free speech the moment someone says something you think unsavory!
Free speech is not some complicated concept wit shades of black and white and grey it is a simple but absolute idea that allows for people to stand in public and talk about flowers or politics or abortion but it equally allows for someone to run around like a madman screaming pooh, bum, shit, KKK, god, no god, gay god, Hitler, right, left, black or white to their hearts content! And if it does not include the latter then there is no value or use in the former because there will be no dissent and orthodoxy will win at the expense of all else as usual.

Mutation

[VectorBased]

In regard to Muslims supporting each other no matter what....

1. We don't have that luxury. If we are seen to be supporting ANYTHING extremist, then we will
be seen to be extremist, and will lose any legitimacy.

They are able to do this because they have healthy communities. Our communities are wrecked, our people are taught from birth to hate themselves.

If I thought for one second that this lady supported the KKK or even the idea of such an organisation here in Australia I would tell her to go jump in the pond.

2. Muslims support the rapists in their community. Do we want to be like that? Do we want support people who are obvious mental cases because they happen to have some nationalistic views? I'm not saying Terri-Anne is one of them, just giving examples.

We can afford to be controversial, but look at the weapons the reds use, its always the same. If the KKK had not got a mention this story may well have ended up on the editors spike.

We can in my mind afford associations with most bad things, but the buzz terms the reds use to get stories in the paper [anything "nazi" or "KKK"] are not on, and while I wouldnt go within spitting distance of anyone who holds nazi views and I would hope the same is true of those on this forum words can be twisted by reds.

Remember these are the same people who saw nothing wrong with Stalin air brushing his dead enemies out of pictures. They wouldnt be able to lie straight in bed, they have been lying for so long they dont even know what they believe anymore.

And they have friends in the media, some of them, like Asher Moses, now ARE the media. So please dont say anything that could be taken out of context on a public forum.

We know they will lie anyway, our job is to give them less material to lie with.

I have no more love for the KKK than you do but I support her right to say what she likes about it or any other subject no matter how offensive I might find it . Hell I even support your right to say what you feel, think or are driven to! Just as I support Reds right to say the moronic crap they adhere to so long as they draw breath that is.
There are no limits to free speech it is either FREE or it is not and you of all people on this forum having pointed out many times that the enemy is within our own walls and their greatest weapon against us is the erosion of free speech should support if not the words then the act of speaking her mind. Nobody should be able to be punished, fired, harassed, intimidated  or targeted by any public or private body or business either for their beliefs, words or associations. Frankly despite my constant conflicts with you I am always impressed with your passion, intellect and unwavering determination  on those issues dear to you but am sickened by your willingness to abandon the principals of free speech the moment someone says something you think unsavory!
Free speech is not some complicated concept wit shades of black and white and grey it is a simple but absolute idea that allows for people to stand in public and talk about flowers or politics or abortion but it equally allows for someone to run around like a madman screaming pooh, bum, shit, KKK, god, no god, gay god, Hitler, right, left, black or white to their hearts content! And if it does not include the latter then there is no value or use in the former because there will be no dissent and orthodoxy will win at the expense of all else as usual.

Mutation

Of course everyone should have the right to say what they like. Whether of not its wise to be
seen supporting views that the Reds can use as weapons against you is another matter.

[Casapound]

Whether of not its wise to be
seen supporting views that the Reds can use as weapons against you is another matter.

Indeed.

Kiss my arse Casa you are as guilty as I am. You just think it is legitimate when you direct it at reds and not when I direct it at muslims!
You grow up you dictatorial little twerp!

1. Yes I need to keep my temper just like anyone else.

2. No-one cares about reds, their own mothers dont care about them, it is almost impossible to create sympathy for people so perverted no matter how hard the media tries. Violence between political factions is not anews story. Violence against ethnic and religious minorities is ALWAYS a news story and something the media can use against us, even if its only in speculative form.

[darrinh]

Due to the fact that Terrie-Anne is coming into some financial difficulties no thanks to Alex Gollan and his band of anonymous internet cowards at AARD, I have kicked in an additional $25.00 and have transferred $400 via EFT to Terrie-Anne's account. Thank you to all those who have contributed to the fund, you have done the Australian thing.

Thanks,
Darrin Hodges.

[mutation]

Whether of not its wise to be
seen supporting views that the Reds can use as weapons against you is another matter.

Indeed.

Kiss my arse Casa you are as guilty as I am. You just think it is legitimate when you direct it at reds and not when I direct it at muslims!
You grow up you dictatorial little twerp!

1. Yes I need to keep my temper just like anyone else.

2. No-one cares about reds, their own mothers dont care about them, it is almost impossible to create sympathy for people so perverted no matter how hard the media tries. Violence between political factions is not anews story. Violence against ethnic and religious minorities is ALWAYS a news story and something the media can use against us, even if its only in speculative form.

You can rationalize anything if you try hard enough and Islam is a Political organization at least as much so as your pet hate the red menace  it is just not presented as such. Personally I take little comfort being put in a bodybag by a religion rather than a political organization!

Mutation

[Casapound]

Islam is a Political organization at least as much so as your pet hate the red menace  i

You miss the point.

But it doesnt matter, neither of us should be making those sorts of comments about anyone. Full stop.

[mutation]

Islam is a Political organization at least as much so as your pet hate the red menace  i

You miss the point.

But it doesnt matter, neither of us should be making those sorts of comments about anyone. Full stop.

I missed no point Thanks !

I will try to respect the wishes of the forum on this but I must state for the record I dont agree with you on this matter.
I dont deny that these types of comment can be used by those on the other side of the fence but that does not make them wrong or inaccurate somewhat the opposite in fact and the act of changing your stated thoughts in order to better  appeal to a marketplace is dishonest, disingenuous and a cynical political ploy.
Part of the problem we face is we are forced to play the game by their rules not ours and your desire to appeal to outsiders or the naive is playing into their hands.
Your "back door" (pardon the pun) approach may work and is certainly easier to sell to a dim witted public half programed by Red propaganda but personally I would be far more likely to back a political group that used "plain" language rather than the sugar coated version you propose.
I will try to curb my language or at the very least cloak it in enough mystery that only the initiated will understand what I realy mean though the dishonesty nearly makes me puke!



Mutation

[peggy1au]

For the record, you rock Mutie. 

[tyga]

I agree with peggy1au, Mutie rocks. 

[Casapound]

Islam is a Political organization at least as much so as your pet hate the red menace 

The point you missed was made obvious by your reply mutie. Both are indeed political organisations, but different ones which must be approached and theorised about in different ways.

I dont deny that these types of comment can be used by those on the other side of the fence

Good.

but that does not make them wrong or inaccurate somewhat the opposite in fact and the act of changing your stated thoughts in order to better  appeal to a marketplace is dishonest, disingenuous and a cynical political ploy.

The act of presenting your "stated thoughts" in a more user friendly way as to gain more adherents to your "stated thoughts" is called "politics".

Look at red Julia and her transformation over the last 20 years.

Part of the problem we face is we are forced to play the game by their rules not ours and your desire to appeal to outsiders or the naive is playing into their hands.

The "outsiders" or "naive" you refer to would be the greater Australian public would it not? You knbow the people that vote and make up our community?

Your "back door" (pardon the pun)

Is that a pun?

approach may work and is certainly easier to sell to a dim witted public half programed by Red propaganda

So you admit my way is easier to sell to the public because it doesnt try to hit them over the head?

but personally I would be far more likely to back a political group that used "plain" language rather than the sugar coated version you propose.

Sadly the world is not made up of people like you mutie...

I will try to curb my language or at the very least cloak it in enough mystery that only the initiated will understand what I realy mean though the dishonesty nearly makes me puke!

Thankyou mutie I will try to do the same.

As Tyga and Peggy have pointed out you are a valued member of this forum, and you have even grown on me. No-one would ever ask you to be dishonest about your views or even to "suger coat" them. We are not about being dishonest here. Its just about phrasing them in sucah a way that wont hurt people like Daz who can be identified from this forum.

I think we all agree that Daz and his tireless campaigning is not only the reason that this forum exists, but also one of the big reasons behind the growth of the APP along with other hard working figures like Andrew Phillips who are willing to step out in the spotlight and be attacked. Something not all of us can do.

Personally I feel that a little respect and consideration by the rest of us, including me, for the sacrifices these frontline activists have made is not too much to ask.

And if I step over the line sometimes in my comments mutie I know you will be right there telling me about it!

[L. Meyers]

So, this poor girl is being vilified and even threatened for candidly expressing her views about immigration and multiculturalism.

So much for freedom of speech in modern "multicultural" Australia.

As for the threats made by Indians, I would urge Terrie-Anne to report them to the police. Such behaviour is not acceptable in Australia. Maybe back in a Third World cesspool like India. But not here.