Darrin, I admire and agree with your effort to support nationalists who have been the target of red
harassment because of reasonable and rational views they have expressed, but I am not sure of the
wisdom in supporting someone who in any way agreed with or support the KKK.
Do you think this is a good image for APP?
I realise that her comments may have been throw-away, but I don't see much difference between
supporting someone who has made the comments she has, and allowing Mutation and I to make jokes or statements regarding our pro-violence opinions on the forum.
Its just my personal opinion, but I think the APP getting behind anyone who has associated themselves with, or spoken in support of the KKK, is opening yourself up to accusations of racism
that will stick.
That being said, I don't know the full story, just pointing out an outsider's perspective.
I've not seen the context of the alleged statement but I do know she has no association with the KKK at all. Additionally, if we fail to stand by somebody who was subject to red political terror, who will stand behind you if your turn comes about? Shall we say that because VectorBased made unsavoury comments on AIF that we'll leave him to the crocodiles? That is exactly what they want. The fact is they are absolutely furious that this fund raiser is happening, that for once, the effects of their time honoured tactics may blow up in their faces and they hate it.
Look at the Islamic community, they stick by each other through thick and thin. We need to be doing the same, we either hang together or hang separately.
Okay. But there are dangers in sticking by people just because they have some views in common.
We would have SOME views in common with moron Nazis, does that mean we should stick
by them when someone gets fired for being a Nazi?
I am not trying to start an argument here, just trying to draw comparisons to others groups who
have the opinion that any disagreement is "division" - often that means they want the moderate
nationalists to be united with the nutcases.
I'm just worried that if those KKK comments are proven to be true, that its going to backfire in APP's face.
In regard to Muslims supporting each other no matter what....
1. We don't have that luxury. If we are seen to be supporting ANYTHING extremist, then we will
be seen to be extremist, and will lose any legitimacy.
2. Muslims support the rapists in their community. Do we want to be like that? Do we want support people who are obvious mental cases because they happen to have some nationalistic views? I'm not saying Terri-Anne is one of them, just giving examples.
3. Supporting someone just to annoy the reds at the potential expense of your reputation seems
like short-term satisfaction for long term damage.
4. Guys like myself and Mutation don't fear red intimidation at work or anywhere. Every Red I have
ever met I have been able to intimidate the sh!t out of without even making a threat, because by
nature they are wimps. And even if I did lose my job, I would apply for Centrelink. My taxes paid
for it, I can claim it. I wouldn't expect people I didn't know to send me money.
Like I said, I don't fully know the situation, but just tread carefully. Hope it all goes well.